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 | | Posted by: A. Glenn Brady | 8/21/2007 | A recent Associated Press article appeared on CNN.com entitled, “Could Mr. Right Be White? – More Black Women Consider Dating Out.” It deals with the fact that Black women around the country are reconsidering interracial relationships. Of course I had to reflect back on the 1967 Academy Award-winning classic entitled, “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner?” In that film a young White American woman has a whirlwind romance with an African-American (played by Sidney Poitier) and they plan to marry. The plot is centered around the young woman’s return to her home in San Francisco, California, bringing her new fiancé to dinner to meet her parents. That film dealt with the sensitive subject of interracial marriage which had been historically illegal in most of the United States. Forty (40) years later, even after the Supreme Court decision in Loving vs. Virginia (that legalized interracial marriage throughout the United States), we are still grappling with the same sensitive issue of marriage between races. The AP article focuses its attention that some black women are frustrated as the field of ‘marriageable’ black men narrows. (It states they’re nearly seven times more likely to be incarcerated than white men and more than twice as likely to be unemployed.) It also discusses that campuses are often a place where women of all races meet their spouses, but there is a low rate of black men in college. It is stated that Sundays are the most segregated time of the week, which reflects that races tend not to worship together. Blacks attend black churches, and whites attend white churches. So does not this same ‘spirit’ spillover to the choices one makes for their marriage partners? There are yet a significant number of Christians who still claim that interracial marriages violate God’s principles in the scriptures. Of course, that suggestion is ridiculous, but yet for the most part we see very little interracial marriages even in the church. The fear of races inter-marrying was a contributing factor that brought about the split of many great religious organizations. Some regard that the history of the Apostolic-Pentecostal movement was affected by this notion. With two beautiful daughters in college, I often ponder how I would react if they started dating seriously a white young man. Even though I’m saved (and filled full of the Holy Ghost), I grew up in an era of the 1960’s and 1970’s when there was a bitter fight to gain civil rights, and often the villain was the image of the white man who raped are sisters, lynched our brothers, and berated our parents. That era also changed many blacks’ self image with the likes of “I’m Black and I’m Proud!” Does this mean I have an ingrain hatred for white people – of course not. I have some wonderful friends and neighbors that are white, close church associates that are interracially married, and many in the white community who I admire & respect. But… how would I react if I had a white son-in-law? I can’t help but think of the comedy bigotry of George Jefferson (remember ‘Movin On Up To The East Side’ ?). While blacks often point the finger of prejudice and bigotry to those in the white community, the issue becomes are we in the black community (and even the church) also guilty of “pre-judging” a person? I can only hope we practice, as famously quoted by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., “…not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character…” When it boils down, we all come from one blood. Guess who’s coming to dinner? Don’t surprise me… give me time to adjust and prepare myself! | | | Permalink | Trackback |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By AJB on 8/23/2007 | | This is a very interesting blog. It is also quite ironic that a similar discussion just recently took place between my friends and I. As an aspiring, black, college student, the subject of marriage tends to come up from time to time (I clearly have a while). But I do often hear things like, "I'm sick of black men, I'm moving on to white men!" and "Black men are no good". But then again I also here things like, "There's nothing like a black man" and "I can't be with anybody unless they are black!" These are obviously two seperate views on interracial dating. I will admitt, many views toward this subject come from experience and not known facts. Yes we all know God does not limit love to color but that does not change our past experiences which has such great impacts on our views. But I am curious to what others feel about this topic because it is a good one... |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By anonymous on 8/23/2007 | | This topic causes my blood to ruch because i have dealt with this subject for a long time. I am a college student as well but i like other black women feel this deep down pain and struggle as if i went through it all myself (1960's). I am a product of an interracial marriage (black and Puerto Rican), and i too am a saved woman of God but i find it hard to see a white girl with a black man. I think it is hard because i see white girls at my school and thoughout my life throw themselves at white and and black guys alike and it seems as though black males are getting so relaxed because of this that they dont want to work for strong black women ( or minority women) because it is just easier to go for the white girl who is gonna give it up, do what he wants her to do and take things that a black woman would never let slide. I think that when i see a black and white couple i seem to jump to the conclusion that she is easy he is lazy and they are together. I also think it is usually a set up for the black men, and they should really watch out because these white girls get way form family want to adventure and be with a black man but as soon as dad finds out they want to yell rape. Like the brother at vanderbilt who lost his scholarship because a girl that he was involved with. in order to keep her father happy she lied to say she was raped and now his life is ruined. Me personally i dont hink i could ever marry a white person because there are things that i could not do. Such as if i felt as though at work i was racially descriminated against at work or i was pulled over because i was black and it was 2:00 at the end of the month, i could not go home and say hunny guess what happened to me... they just wouldnt understand, and they would not be able to confort me. Also there is a struggle that i belive any educated black person who has been surrounded by a black community can feel without having to say a word. It cant really be explained but i just dont understand how i could be with someone who doesnt understand my feelings and the discrimination that is under the surface every day of our liveds and minorities. i think this stretches across all minority races because at some point we were and still are suffering and discriminated against daily. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By abbig7 on 8/24/2007 | | And that's my stand - judge me by my character and not by the color of my skin. My feelings about interracial relationships is definitely ambigous. On the one hand I say, "everyone has the right to love, marry and live with the person that meets their expectations, requirements etc. However, when you see or even experience the racial inequalities that yet exist today you do feel that we should 'stay with our own' and build our communities. It truly is a hard call. My daughter-in-law is bi-racial and the differences in culture are quite interesting. She tends to lean more to her "black" side but there are times when I say 'oh there's the white girl.' And I don't mean it negatiively, there are just some very obvious differences in the way we do things. Does that mean that we can't be together? I don't think so. I do believe that love knows no color and the heart is the determining factor. Amazing that in the year 2007 we are still at an impass on this issue. Who is right and who is wrong? |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Anonymous on 8/27/2007 | | Dinner guests can be more challengeing than black & white. I beleive that I could handle if my son or daughter seriously dated soneone outside of our race, however I think it would be a greater struggle if they were of the same sex. In this present age, same gender lovinig it is becoming even more commonplace and accepted. I am clear, God has not changed His mind in this regards, however, how do we love those into the relationship that is God centered without becoming the bigot or the homophobic person. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By A. Glenn Brady on 8/27/2007 | | Anonymous -- your statement is accurate. No doubt we will discuss this subject in a future blog subject. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Dionne Corley on 8/27/2007 | | I am not one that has major issues with interracial relationships. However, I must admit that when I do see interracial couples, I often wonder about the basis of their union. At times, I do find myself wondering if they were brought together by pure love or some other motive. With such a great attack on our black men, my personal preference would be to love and support a strong black man. But with our options seemingly limited, I would at least be open to the possibility of loving a man outside of my race. In the words of the Winans, "Love has no color. You're my brother" |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By matt.R on 9/3/2007 | | very interested is it okay to date interracially or is there still a problem. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Jacquie Hays on 9/4/2007 | | That question is probably not as boggling or surprising to me. With all of the interracial marriages today, it seems to be a thing of today. However, I had my experinces with both of my daughters who both brought home a male of the other persuasion, I kept my cool and didn't harp on it and later, they made their choice of their own race. My family being the melting pot of the world, I guess it wouldn't bring that much destraught to me. It is better in the world today than years ago when I was growing up and the world couldn't handle it. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By An Anonymous Mother on 9/24/2007 | | I grew up with very definite ideas to stay with my own race in personal relationships such as dating and marrying because my grandfather, just a generation beyond slavery always impacted me with the idea that if I married a white man, none of what he he had labored for would be mine. At that time I did not even consider what was being left to me it was the principle that he was teaching that we do not just give back to our oppressors what it took blood, sweat, and tears to acquire. But now as a mother, and it is no longer post slavery, although a racially tense society, I have sons and I always reminded them that black boys like Emmett Till were hung because of white women. Now I must admit that after having experienced the problems that many others have faced in this present drug culture, the only girl that seems to stabilize my one son is white and I have a change of heart. Whomever or whatever God will use to bring him to himself is alright with me. She can be Red, Yellow, Black, or white. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By BDW on 12/2/2007 | | I would have to say that first, we(mankind) would have to change our mindset...Our perspective.... on what we have defined, classified, and accepted as race. For me, I have come to the realization that there is (no race classification) within the human race in and of itself. There is one human race, one classification of species, that is considered mankind (humanity). We are comprised of different ethnic groups, social groups and cultural differences. Many have confused race with differences between each other such as physical makeups, (identifiable differences that can be seen with the eye), and cultural differences. But what really seperates us from each other is cultural differences. We are all considered humanity, mankind, and we all have to answer to God. One race, one humanity. Yes, ignorance caused one group of humanity whose physical makeup and cultural differences differ from that of the other groups of humanity, to discriminate and therefore create a false illusion of difference between another group of humanity, whose physical makeup and cultural differences differ from that of the other. However, this does not separate us from each other. Physically, We are all considered to be one race. When God created man, he didn't say Let us make a black man in our image after our likeness. Or white, indian, mexican, etc., No, he said Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness. Gen. 1:26 The only difference in race here on earth that can be legitmately verified is that of the human race(species) and the animal race(species).<br><br>Suff. Bishop, I'm sure you would get over that first initial shock, if one of your daughters did decide to date or marry a white man....lol...<br>it is understandable...considering how we( humanity) have been subconsiously conditioned to register differences between each other...But one of the awesome things about being filled with the God's Spirit is the fact that we don't have to register any differences, we can look past physical makeups...and love the person!...:) |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Anonymous on 1/9/2008 | | I am very disappointed (not surprised though) as to the general tenor of the blogs I have read in response to "Guess Whose Coming To Dinner" What I am hearing church folk say is the same thing that the unchurched say and live. And I am sorry, but the reason they as well as you (church folk) talk and act the way you do is because YOU ARE PREJUDICE. You can attempt to cover it in veils of intellectualism, common sense, practicalites, etc., etc. but it is nothing less than participating in the same sin that Dr. King gave his life to because of - predudice, bigotry, and racism. That is why our churches are so divided be they evangelical, fundamentalist, or what we call holiness, it is all the some - people talking about a God who is love and hates respect of persons and yet we personify this evil in our life-style, separate marriages, churches, etc. We (the church have been a total disgrace to God in this regard and a complete failure in our testimony to the world. I am only being as acute and terse in my comments because we (the church) be we white or black congregations have rationalized this topic to such degree that we won't even consider (genuinely think about) in most cases if we are in error. I appaud A.G. Brady for his addressing the same. But how real with God will you be in this area? |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By A.G. Brady on 1/10/2008 | | Dear Anonymous, I feel your compassion. It certainly is something we must consider and give serious thought for a paradigm shift. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Anonymous on 1/10/2008 | | I appreciate your provoking suggestion that Black's should ponder as to are they being guilty of prejudice such as often many Whites are. I don't see any answer possible unless one rationalizes, but clearly yes! I grew up with white parents who were very typical liberal democrats, middle class, intelligent, and morally good people. They both raised me to not be prejudice and professed of course that neither were they. My Father had a successful bussiness operation wherein probably 90% of his customers were Black. I of course heard statements from them such as "I have Black friends, bussiness associates that are people of color, and I know of very fine individuals that are Black." However when "the rubber met the road" and I became involved with a Black women that I later married, everything changed. As you might guess, they were totally opposed to it, did not attend our wedding, etc., etc. My father being the self righteous person he was would still never admit to being prejudice while my mother since she was more "real" in her motiff did acknowledge eventually that she was. Personally, I don't think a Black person has a right to complain about white racism, etc., if they cannot pass this ultimate test of inter-racial marriage. You are merely seeing the fruit of your own sinful heart come to the surface when faced with such a test. Because of our Scriptural teaching, (God is not a respecter of persons) we are forced to repress our prejudice and not acknowledge it knowing that to do so would be an admission of guilt and thus sin. However when confronted by two people whose love is too pure for our comfort zone to deal with, what is in our hearts rises to the surface. Either we go all the way when it comes to truths that clearly tell us that we are all created equal, are all of one blood, and are all of the human kind or we deserve the hatred, the biggotry, the evil, etc. that has dominated our societies all too often. As Rev. Brady so suggested, may we be at least willing to ponder such thoughts. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Darren G A Blackwood England UK on 1/15/2008 | | I personally have not seen the movie "Guess who is coming to dinner?" I have been asked by various individuals would I consider dating someone outside of my race? I hadn't given this much thought until recently when confronted by a family member who is involved in a inter-racial relationship & they are expecting to get married later on this year. The movie that I have recently seen entitled "Something Different" which involved two people who were introduced to each other by mutual friends that knew them both considerably well, what they didn't realise especially for the Black Professional African American Woman that in terms of her initial encounter that he would have been White. I have since re-evaluated my thinking where this is concerned and in some respect have become more open minded & receptive to others peoples choices, I know that there are associated stigma & prejudices where this is concerned, Racism still exists and although not as prevalent now as before I guess this will always be the case. I think what concerns me more than anything else is a individual persons happiness regarding their relationship with each other and ones personal choice on the matter which should not be regarded as an issue by any means |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Michelle Nelms on 1/16/2008 | | Reply to statement: [There are yet a significant number of Christians who still claim that interracial marriages violate God’s principles in the scriptures.] Like the Wizard from the Wizard of Oz said, "NOT SO FAST >>>NOT SO FAST".....WHAT SCRIPture is THAT??? .......What about in the old testaments when God condemned Mariam with leoprosy, because she spoke ill of Moses's wife, just because she was an Ethiopian. It is found in Numbers 12:1-16. Please Remeber<br>God hates prejudice. So be very careful, that you don't allow your own selfish desicion based on what you see and experienced, to get in the way of God truly blessing your sons and daughters with whom He chooses for them. Again, it is found in the old testaments, Numbers 12, the whole chapter.<br> <br><br><br> |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Franklin Rutledge on 3/19/2008 | | By Michelle Nelms on 1/16/2008- <br>After work I get this wonderful opportunity to sit and read these messages that are on the different blogs, and because it is America I don’t have to worry about getting my head cut off for responding to them. I totally agree with you. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. God made each for each other. Adam was brown and Eve was pink or flesh color. You can’t get pink or pale color from the dust of the ground and you can’t get brown or black from the skin of the rib. If we stop to think a moment and apply proper propositional logic to race, we will gladly or sadly discover that we are one blood, one race of people. We are compatible for procreation. The world’s problem isn’t the color of their skin, it is the color of their heart. The interracial question will loom as long as there is a devil. As born again saints we can teach the devil out of other saint’s flesh to help them love people as themselves. We have our personal likes and dislikes about mates; this is why some of you that desire to be married are not. Your motives are in the wrong place. There is no perfect man or woman. In Christ there is no color; in the PAW and UPC there is color. If we ask God for a stone, will he give us a serpent? If we ask him for a mate, will he give us one based on our culture, or someone that will bring happiness into our lives? Moses wife was not an Ethiopian; she was a distant cousin with dark skin. She was from the linage of Abraham. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By @ on 3/20/2008 | | Thanks Franklin Rutledge, it was well put. Great post! |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Michelle Nelms on 3/23/2008 | | "And Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married; for he had married an Ethiopian woman" (Num. 12.1). |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Franklin Rutledge on 3/27/2008 | | By Michelle Nelms on 3/23/2008- The Bible is true, but everything in the Bible is not correct. Gen 25:1-4, Ex 2: 15, 3:1 18:1. Ethiopia is in a different geographical area. Sorry, I can make the two lands or people meet. This doesn’t change the inerrancy of the Bible. Maybe if Miriam had more knowledge of her own people she would have understood that while Moses’ wife skin was darker, she was still part of the family. |
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| Re: GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER? | By Michelle Nelms on 3/30/2008 | | LOL.....dinner with you is out of the question. |
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